DANNY66
10:57 Thu Aug 20
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Haggas was 5/1 on billy hill to have two winners or more today
I missed it
Him and Omeara are my current favourite trainers
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Northern Sold
10:41 Thu Aug 20
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Don't see too much blame for Dettori here Grumps... you know... just sometimes... horses no matter how good they are perturbed to be just dont click... Moore, Piggott or Cauthen could have been on board yesterday and I dont think anything would have been different.... re: the pacemaker all I think it done was confuse things as GH just ran his normal race (position wise that is).
C&P from Racing Post
Golden Horn’s trainer John Gosden agreed with Dettori's assessment that the combination of good to soft ground, which had earlier caused the defection of Gleneagles, and the colt’s freshness on his first start since winning last month’s Coral-Eclipse were factors for the below-par display.
“It's just a pity it rained, a pity that we didn't have Gleneagles and a pity for this horse as well,” the trainer said.
“Our fella was fresh and keen early on, basically did too much early on, with the pace of the race. He burnt too much petrol early. We put the pacemaker in and he set a nice even gallop but look how far they stood off the pacemaker, and the pacemaker of the race - Arabian Queen - was the winner when you watch it again.
“Frankie just feel that he was hard to settle the first six. He didn't run in the King George obviously and was a very fresh horse since the Eclipse and he's rather gassed himself out in the ground."
He added: “He's gone in front of the filly and then just tired in what is dead ground. There's no doubt he's a much better horse on fast ground as we know which he has always run on.
“He found this ground not entirely to his liking, take nothing away from the filly, she's outstayed them all well and if you look back to The Grey Gatsby [in third] you see the Eclipse form still there.”
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foreverdreaming
9:59 Thu Aug 20
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Brossia is a acca breaker
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Grumpster
9:32 Thu Aug 20
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Even gosden blamed him athletico.
No point in a pace maker if you're gonna sit 8 lengths off it.
Made no difference to my bet either way as TGG was craps, but it was a poor ride.
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Athletico Easthamico
9:30 Thu Aug 20
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Don't blame Dettori for Golden Horn.
Lazy excuse.
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Grumpster
6:22 Thu Aug 20
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Ajax, Bordeaux, Dortmund and St Etienne tonight at 7/2 for a tenner.
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Grumpster
5:47 Thu Aug 20
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Mistrusting nailed on in the 4.55.
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Grumpster
4:10 Thu Aug 20
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Fuck knows how Cosgrave got the gig for a trainer like Haggas, but they are turning into a formidable pairing.
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wrighty
4:08 Thu Aug 20
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Another good win and strong ride, on mange all in the next for a trixie.
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Grumpster
4:05 Thu Aug 20
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Sometimes the stats work lincs, shame it's not every day and I could retire ;o)
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lincshammer
4:02 Thu Aug 20
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Good call grumps
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Grumpster
3:38 Thu Aug 20
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All over Haggas today.
In the first that's his third win in a row in that race and I think Besharah looks good in the next.
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lincshammer
3:36 Thu Aug 20
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Good start on the ew Heinz a place at 33s!
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Grumpster
3:30 Thu Aug 20
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Thank you Tasleet, that is the weekends bets fully covered :o)
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Grumpster
1:04 Thu Aug 20
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Dangerous that happy, not sure O'Meara has any interest in winning the race, as he only has 8 runners in it!!!
He's a cracking trainer O'Meara with a cracking stable jockey and one thing I've noticed with Tudhope, is he is superb at rarely picking the wrong horse to ride when they have more than the 1 runner.
Good understudy in Sam James too and as a stat man (basically a pleb), I couldn't touch Penitent purely because Nolan is 2 wins from 57 rides at York.
Haggas and Palmer have great records there so may go for one of theirs.
See how much fucking about all of this stat bollocks gets me, that's just one race analysed and I'll still lose!!! :o(
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happygilmore
12:47 Thu Aug 20
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*pentinent
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happygilmore
12:45 Thu Aug 20
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Cheers Danny
With the ground coming up a bit softer I think o'meara's pertinent could run a big race at 33s in the 3.05. Worth. Ew shout
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lincshammer
9:46 Thu Aug 20
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York ew Heinz
1.50 still on top
2.30 ashadihan
3.05 bronze angel
3.40 covert love
4.20 bright approach
4.55 enlace
Good luck all
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DANNY66
8:10 Thu Aug 20
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O'Meara says Mondialiste is his best chance of a winner this week
Runs Saturday no idea of the odds tho
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Grumpster
12:39 Thu Aug 20
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I just thought he was outridden by de sousa personally who's a little stronger, though I've never really rated Frankie the jockey, he's more about Frankie the personality.
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Northern Sold
11:28 Wed Aug 19
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Woahhh... so Frankie Dettori is shit now yeah?? Didnt look too much jockey error for me... looked more the horse just didn't fancy dead ground (same as TGG).... maybe Aiden O'Brien called it right today...
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